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Posted 2011-03-29 4:03 PM (#2367 - in reply to #1740)
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Cool, looks like a good list, I think it fits well.

Unfortunately I have only read two, but I'm going to be reading "Grass" as soon as I've finished "Stranger in a Strange Land" so soon it will be three
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Posted 2011-06-03 7:38 PM (#2434 - in reply to #1740)
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2009/jan/22/1000-novels-science-fic...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2009/jan/22/1000-novels-science-fic...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2009/jan/22/1000-novels-science-fic...
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Posted 2011-06-03 9:38 PM (#2435 - in reply to #2434)
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Now that's a big list!  Of the 149 SF/F books on the Guardian list we're missing 72 - just under half:
  • The Blind Assassin by Margaret Atwood
  • In the Country of Last Things by Paul Auster
  • Millennium People by JG Ballard
  • The Wasp Factory by Iain Banks
  • Darkmans by Nicola Barker
  • Vathek by William Beckford
  • Lost Souls by Poppy Z Brite
  • Wieland by Charles Brockden Brown
  • The Master and Margarita by Mikhail Bulgakov
  • The End of the World News by Anthony Burgess
  • Naked Lunch by William Burroughs
  • The Baron in the Trees by Italo Calvino
  • Alice's Adventures in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll
  • Through the Looking Glass and What Alice Found There by Lewis Carroll
  • The Passion of New Eve by Angela Carter
  • The Amazing Adventures of Kavalier and Clay by Michael Chabon
  • The Man who was Thursday by GK Chesterton
  • Hello Summer, Goodbye by Michael G Coney
  • Girlfriend in a Coma by Douglas Coupland
  • House of Leaves by Mark Danielewski
  • Pig Tales by Marie Darrieussecq
  • Foucault's Pendulum by Umberto Eco
  • Under the Skin by Michel Faber
  • The Magus by John Fowles
  • Red Shift by Alan Garner
  • Lord of the Flies by William Golding
  • The House of the Seven Gables by Nathaniel Hawthorne
  • The Glass Bead Game by Herman Hesse
  • The Private Memoirs and Confessions of a Justified Sinner by James Hogg
  • Atomised by Michel Houellebecq
  • The Unconsoled by Kazuo Ishiguro
  • The Haunting of Hill House by Shirley Jackson
  • The Turn of the Screw by Henry James
  • The Children of Men by PD James
  • After London; or, Wild England by Richard Jefferies
  • The Trial by Franz Kafka
  • The Shining by Stephen King
  • The Victorian Chaise-longue by Marghanita Laski
  • Uncle Silas by Joseph Sheridan Le Fanu
  • Memoirs of a Survivor by Doris Lessing
  • The Chronicles of Narnia by CS Lewis
  • The Monk by Matthew Lewis
  • Beyond Black by Hilary Mantel
  • Melmoth the Wanderer by Charles Maturin
  • The Butcher Boy by Patrick McCabe
  • Ascent by Jed Mercurio
  • Ingenious Pain by Andrew Miller
  • Mother London by Michael Moorcock
  • News from Nowhere by William Morris
  • Beloved by Toni Morrison
  • The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle by Haruki Murakami
  • Ada or Ardor by Vladimir Nabokov
  • The Third Policeman by Flann O'Brien
  • The Famished Road by Ben Okri
  • Fight Club by Chuck Palahniuk
  • Nightmare Abbey by Thomas Love Peacock
  • Titus Groan by Mervyn Peake
  • A Glastonbury Romance by John Cowper Powys
  • Gargantua and Pantagruel by Francois Rabelais
  • The Mysteries of Udolpho by Ann Radcliffe
  • Satanic Verses by Salman Rushdie
  • The Little Prince by Antoine de Saint-Exupery
  • Blindness by Jose Saramago
  • How the Dead Live by Will Self
  • Dracula by Bram Stoker
  • The Insult by Rupert Thomson
  • The Castle of Otranto by Horace Walpole
  • Institute Benjamenta by Robert Walser
  • Lolly Willowes by Sylvia Townsend Warner
  • Affinity by Sarah Waters
  • The Sword in the Stone by TH White
  • The Old Men at the Zoo by Angus Wilson
This list is of a more literary bent than some so will make an excellent addition to the site.  It'll take some time to complete however so don't hold your breath!  Great find.
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Posted 2011-06-04 10:44 AM (#2437 - in reply to #1740)
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That's a great list. I think I'll have to make a start at filling it out on the site.
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Posted 2011-06-06 8:13 PM (#2445 - in reply to #1740)
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I certainly won't be complaining if you add this one
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Posted 2011-06-08 6:04 AM (#2450 - in reply to #2445)
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I'd love it if you added the Mythopoeic Awards. There's lots of overlap.
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Posted 2011-06-08 1:04 PM (#2451 - in reply to #2450)
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Rhondak101 - 2011-06-08 6:04 AM I'd love it if you added the Mythopoeic Awards. There's lots of overlap.


Ah! New awards. A subject near and dear to my heart. Will definitely add Mythopoetic Awards at some point later this summer: http://www.mythsoc.org/awards/fantasy/ At first glance it looks like a good bit of overlap with what we have in the DB already so that's helpful.

Great suggestion.

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Posted 2011-06-13 8:46 AM (#2455 - in reply to #2451)
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And it is predominantly fantasy based, so there is no confusion. The winner is likely to be a fantasy novel :-)
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Posted 2011-06-13 9:15 AM (#2456 - in reply to #2455)
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Emil - 2011-06-13 8:46 AM And it is predominantly fantasy based, so there is no confusion. The winner is likely to be a fantasy novel :-)

I've looked this one over and you're right - there does not seem to be any ambiguity.  Straight up fantasy.  That's the good news.

The bad news is that there are 99 books in that award list that we don't have in our database.   Oy!  I guess I better get started...  This is going to take some time.

Currently we're trying to add the Guardian list and a MilSF list that I've been plugging away at for months.  The MilSF list is closest to being done so I'll probably shift to that one to wrap it up.  jynnantonnyx is helping with the Guardian list so we should have them both up in the next month or so.

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Posted 2011-06-13 7:21 PM (#2457 - in reply to #1740)
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Now you are making me feel guilty My wishes don't have deadlines.
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Posted 2011-06-13 7:46 PM (#2458 - in reply to #2457)
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Rhondak101 - 2011-06-13 7:21 PM Now you are making me feel guilty My wishes don't have deadlines. rhonda

Ha ha!  It's a great list but I admit I was hoping for a little more overlap

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Posted 2011-06-14 8:29 AM (#2459 - in reply to #2458)
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If there is 99 books "short", how many are actually in WWEnd
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Posted 2011-06-14 8:46 AM (#2460 - in reply to #2459)
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Emil - 2011-06-14 8:29 AM If there is 99 books "short", how many are actually in WWEnd

There are 190 books on the list so we have 91 already- just under half.  Not too bad really.

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Posted 2011-06-14 1:18 PM (#2461 - in reply to #2460)
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Oh. I meant, how many books are there in the WWEnd database in total? I'm just calculating that amount of books, plus the potential additional 99, divided by my age and multiplied by the number of years left until ... well ... I vacate this reality to see if it's humanly possible to ever catch up
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Posted 2011-06-14 1:31 PM (#2462 - in reply to #2461)
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Emil - 2011-06-14 1:18 PM Oh. I meant, how many books are there in the WWEnd database in total? I'm just calculating that amount of books, plus the potential additional 99, divided by my age and multiplied by the number of years left until ... well ... I vacate this reality to see if it's humanly possible to ever catch up

Ah!  Right now there are 3,020.  Bit of a milestone getting past 3k.  You may find it difficult to read them all but I know you'll give it your best shot!  Just keep reading, just keep reading....

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Posted 2011-06-14 1:32 PM (#2463 - in reply to #2462)
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Posted 2011-06-20 3:20 AM (#2467 - in reply to #1740)
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And then of course, you must factor in the amount you add each year. Ten awards, with more to come, with the winners and all the nominees. That is at least another 50-80 titles right there every year. Plus everything else which gets tossed in. (Thank you very much, by the way.)

But don't despair.

Remember your Clarke: "At the present rate of progress, it is almost impossible to imagine any technical feat that cannot be achieved - if it can be achieved at all - within the next few hundred years." - Arthur C. Clarke

And then think of Ray Kurzweil, prophet of the singularity crowd. He at least plans on living forever. He takes it on faith, with all the data you can stomach, that the rate of human understanding and prevention of aging, will reach the point where it out paces aging itself. This equals immortality as far as he's concerned, if he just doesn't download his brain before that happens. That's his idea of a win/win scenario.


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Posted 2011-06-25 7:44 PM (#2471 - in reply to #2467)
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http://www.npr.org/2011/06/24/137249678/best-science-fiction-fantas...

"NPR is asking its listeners to contribute their favorite science fiction and fantasy novels to a summer reading poll with the idea of generating a top 100 list", I saw this earlier in the week but was too busy to post about it, pity because nominations are now

You can however still vote in a few weeks time, and then perhaps we will have another quality list to add to wwend
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Posted 2011-06-25 7:45 PM (#2472 - in reply to #1740)
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Oh, and looking forward to the Mythopoetic Awards getting added. Keep em coming!
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Posted 2011-07-02 4:01 AM (#2482 - in reply to #1740)
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I think the Sidewise Award for Alternative History might be a good addition to the site.
http://www.uchronia.net/sidewise/
Looks like there is a bit of overlap with the existing content of the database and it's only been around since 1995 so it shouldn't be too much work to add
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Posted 2011-07-02 1:50 PM (#2487 - in reply to #2482)
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@htaccess:  We're getting close to done with the Guardian list now.  I've got all the images done and jynnantonnyx is pluggin' away at the data.   It'll be interesting to see how the NPR list compares to Guardian's.  I'm sure we'll be adding that one to the site too.  Mythopoetic should be a great addition to the site.

@valashain:  Sidewise looks interesting though it's a short list.  Some years didn't see much alt-hist books being published it seems.  Kinda strange to have a winner but no other nominees for three of those years...

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Posted 2011-07-08 10:46 AM (#2492 - in reply to #1740)
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Only four books to go on the Guardian list! I'm really loving some of these additions, too. We'll write a blog post about them once it's done.
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Posted 2011-07-08 7:49 PM (#2493 - in reply to #2492)
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Guardian:  The Best Science Fiction and Fantasy Novels

Boo-yah!  All done and looking schweet.  Many thanks to jynnantonnyx for helping me get all these books added to the database.  Take a gander and let us know what you think.  There is quite a bit of variety in this one which is exciting.  jynnantonnyx will be posting to the blog about the list shortly.  Enjoy!

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Posted 2011-07-08 10:21 PM (#2494 - in reply to #2493)
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w00t! great job, thanks for adding this one, your hard work is appreciated. Looks like theres an error with the novel pages for books in this award though, they are all giving this error "AN ERROR HAS OCCURRED - PLEASE RETRY YOUR REQUEST" eg: http://worldswithoutend.com/novel.asp?ID=2522 I am itching to go add a bunch of the new ones to my read list.

Looking forward to the blog post too.

Edited by htaccess 2011-07-08 10:23 PM
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Posted 2011-07-08 10:28 PM (#2495 - in reply to #2494)
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htaccess - 2011-07-08 10:21 PM w00t! great job, thanks for adding this one, your hard work is appreciated. Looks like theres an error with the novel pages for books in this award though, they are all giving this error "AN ERROR HAS OCCURRED - PLEASE RETRY YOUR REQUEST" eg: http://worldswithoutend.com/novel.asp?ID=2522 I am itching to go add a bunch of the new ones to my read list. Looking forward to the blog post too.

  Yeah, we've got a slight data issue that should be fixed shortly.  One of the data fields is not long enough or some such so it's hanging up.  Stand by.

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