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DrGreybeard
Posted 2016-02-22 7:32 AM (#12798)
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Hello everyone. I'm fairly new here. I've been using the web site for a while now. But this is my first post to the forum and I'm not too familiar with it.

I've notice a couple of obvious "Sub-Genre Tags" are missing and am wondering if they could be added.
They are:

Epic Fantasy
Grimdark
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Posted 2016-02-22 9:57 AM (#12800 - in reply to #12798)
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DrGreybeard - 2016-02-22 7:32 AM Hello everyone. I'm fairly new here. I've been using the web site for a while now. But this is my first post to the forum and I'm not too familiar with it. I've notice a couple of obvious "Sub-Genre Tags" are missing and am wondering if they could be added. They are: Epic Fantasy Grimdark

We've got Epic Fantasy lumped in with High Fantasy in our list.  I'll update the label to read "Epic/High Fantasy" for clarity.

I've heard the term Grimdark but I'm not certain how to define it. Wikipedia has some example definitions: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grimdark but what definition would you recommend?

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DrGreybeard
Posted 2016-02-22 12:54 PM (#12802 - in reply to #12798)
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It's widely discussed with no clear cut answer. Other than the most obvious one. Fantasy that is grimmer and darker than average. But also generally with the focus on character building/development and not so much focus on world-building details. Often with vivid and brutal fight and battle scenes. Still a developing sub-genre so the specifics are a might blurry. Think Joe Abercrombie, Mark Lawrence, George RR Martin, Luke Scull, to name a few popular Grimdark authors.

Here's a link from the Grimdark Reader web site on the discussion on defining Grimdark:
http://grimdark-fantasy-reader.blogspot.com/p/grimdark-defined_4656...

Here's a link to Grimdark Magazine another valuable resource:
https://grimdarkmagazine.com/

I'm not associated with either organization. Just a fan of the Grimdark trend.
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bazhsw
Posted 2016-02-28 10:26 AM (#12859 - in reply to #12798)
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Would Low Fantasy be appropriate? I consider Low Fantasy to be low on magic and monsters but also where it's usually raining and the hero dies falling down the stairs. Others may differ but for books I consider low fantasy they are typically grimdark too.
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DrNefario
Posted 2016-02-29 7:19 AM (#12862 - in reply to #12798)
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Location: UK		Low Fantasy appears to have no good definition, from what I can see. I don't think I've ever encountered two people who use it the same way.

And it's kind of meaningless, and seems to contain a value-judgement. (Why I also hate the hard/soft SF distinction.)
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